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Police yourselves first, then complain about my parking.

1 cableguyone

Posted on Tue, Apr 29 2008 at 08:51 AM

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How many of you follow these rules, I see them broken all day long.

#1 Bicyclists must ride with traffic and thus travel in the same direction as motor vehicles.
#2 A bicycle is a vehicle and as such must observe all traffic laws and obey all signals, signs, and pavement markings.
#3 Bicyclists must signal to turn on a roadway, a bike lane or bike path.
#4 Bicycling is not allowed on sidewalks.
#5 A bicyclist may not grab onto or otherwise attach to a moving motor vehicle.

Have you sent your complaints to the city? Bike lane tickets are less then expired meter tickets and muni meter tickets)

2 Greg

Posted on Fri, May 02 2008 at 12:36 AM

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Yep, some cyclists break traffic laws. While not condoned, it is not the point of this site.

The point of this site is safety for those doing their part to help the environment by choosing to commute by cycle. When people park in the bike lane, they run the risk of killing the cyclist who must swerve out into traffic.

3 RatherBeBiking

Posted on Sun, May 04 2008 at 12:01 AM

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Make a site to document those violations and quit wasting your time spamming this forum for legitimate safety complaints.

4 old_user_1403

Posted on Sun, May 04 2008 at 08:39 AM

This is a valid complaint - cyclists can be as inconsiderate (and as dangerous to pedestrians) as car drivers in their belief that simply because they're on a bike that means they're automatically in the right. Funny how the same bikers that get so indignant at cars that don't obey traffic rules get equally indignant when they are told they have to obey the rules too. It's always easier to point the finger at the other guy, try taking a little responsibility yourselves: GET OFF THE SIDEWALKS! TRAVEL DOWN ONE WAY STREETS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!

5 Greg

Posted on Sun, May 04 2008 at 05:03 PM

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Again, bikes are not as dangerous as cars. Check your facts. This information is out there. Cars kill hundreds of pedestrians and cyclists every year in NYC. People on bikes breaking traffic laws are annoying, but they don't kill people.

And, again, not the point of this site.

6 greengarious

Posted on Wed, May 07 2008 at 08:30 AM

Yes, bikers should obey traffic laws, and some do. The problem is that when bikers break rules they usually only endanger their own lives. Cars that violate laws endanger everyone's lives. Who loses when a car and a bike collide? Who is doing more to protect our environment and keep our air clean for the next generation? For you car drivers, what would you rather battle? Another car to battle in the daily onslaught of traffic jams? or a small bicycle in a bike lane, that is NOT IN YOUR WAY. Drivers, you should LOVE bike lanes b/c there is no bike in YOUR lane. They are in THEIR lane. Drivers, you should want more and more and more bike lanes. That is what this website wants: respect for the bike lanes we have and demand for the bike lanes we need. Chew on that.

Bikers can certainly be righteous and indignant. We're fed up. It's scary battling traffic, seriously. Help us feel safer. Please. More bikes=fewer cars. And what citizen wants more cars on the road, seriously?

7 lawandorder

Posted on Wed, May 07 2008 at 10:30 AM

Nice post, green.

8 lowellbellew

Posted on Sun, Jun 01 2008 at 10:53 AM

green- nice.

My visceral response to the initial post goes something like this:
Wait, so, your abiding the law is CONDITIONAL on my abiding the law? Or is it conditional on all cyclists abiding all laws...? Right. Neither is it realistic for any one of us to ensure the behavior of all cyclists or motorists; in an economics framing, we're all optimizing.
If a motorist parks in a bike lane to run in to a building, leaving they're flashers on, it's a gamble, just like if a cyclist goes the wrong way down a one-way street. There are risks and rewards involved for each party, mostly they seem to be time-saving measures.
I am a big fan of proposing attainable solutions rather than antagonizing and polarizing:
(*sounds of climbing onto soapbox*)
1) separated bike lanes - they work in the UK and elsewhere and provide partial solutions to both aforementioned problems, as well as your #3, #4, #5 and to an extent #1
2) a google maps mashup with this site -- this could result in the import of significant plate violator data. The way I see this working is a bot designed to analyze existing results from the streetview data and determine bike lane violators. These violations are then processed to yield posts similar to what we are developing here. With such a significant data log, a next step conversation can be had with municipal entities to discuss WHY the violations likely occur and what we can do to increase safety and improve our cities for all (see 1).